in the last cycle, 2008, obama turned out vote -- voters turned out in greater numbers among latino, african- americans, among young people more than than they ever had before. it was phenominal what occurred. he need to reenergize that group. he needs to reignite that group and he would not have to worry about anything else if he could do that. >> do you get the feel that the campaigns are geared toward that? >> well, i think right now where you see romney-reince are ryan are in good -- romney-ryan are in good shape. romney now need to push ahead and forge ahead. he has to provide additional solutions. what reagan did down the stretch to win, he got more specifics. if romney it is on the lead and plays roosevelt like obama did in the last debate taking the punches and hoping he can emerge, that would be a big mistake. >> but if you say what you can do, that can bring in the attack, right, mayor brown? >> that is true but he has to do it. >> that didn't fuel the other side, but in this case it is really about whether or not the obama operation which was incredibly superior in 2008, t